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Currently I'm working on sending letters to the following people (envelopes address and stamped):

-Captain Bruce Riches (c/o Lieutenant Al Christianson), Utah Highway Patrol (Orem)
-Sheriff James O. Tracy, Jr (c/o Sergeant Dennis Harris), Utah County Sherrif's Department
-Chief Michael J. Larsen, Orem PD
-Chief Craig Geslison, Provo PD
-Chief Chad Smith, Lehi PD
-Chief Cody B. Cullimore, Lindon PD
-Chief Tom Paul, Pleasant Grove PD
-Chief Lance M. Call, American Fork PD
-Mike Stilwell, Range Masters of Utah LC (Owner)

Why?
I was looking for information on Open Carry and had asked four State Troopers, two Utah County Deputies, and an employee at Range Masters of Utah. None gave me correct information and all gave different answers on OC, thus making me embark on my research of the Utah Gun Laws and more. After the debate with a Sportman's Warehouse employee in Provo about OC I decided that I'd like to write some letters and give out ScottyT's Utah Gun Law Pamphlet (already have his permission) to these agencies to help get harassment (because that I what I believe it to be) down from law-biding gun owners that OC or CC. More so with that Office Max fiasco where a cop grabbed someone's gun from his belt (oh, that set me off! Talk about dangerous from a PEACE officer).

Yeah, so I'm sending letters to all of those because they are in my area and where I would open carry/conceal carry. I'll see what kind of reply I get back so we'll see. I hope to have them out by Thursday so the letters can be on their desks on Monday. Once I complete the letter (still working on the wording so it doesn't seem like I'm telling their job or anything like that) I'll post it on here. I will be including links to UCC, OCDO, and reference to Mitch Vilos book "Utah Gun Law, 3rd Edition" and maybe suggest it as a "must read" (because I think it is after plugging through it the last two days).

 

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I'm not a pamphlet maker, but I might be able to whip something together tonight after work if someone else more knowledgeable doesn't do it first.

And even better than any of this would be to have an official letter from the AG's office sent out to all the police/sheriffs departments in Utah stating that OC is legal and that harassment, detention and citation of citizens who OC will not be tolerated. Now that would be awesome!

That would be great if the AG did that. I understand concerned citizens wanting to protect themselves from someone that has a gun, but once a LEO see a clean record and that the OC person isn't doing anything wrong, just going about his/her business, to let the person go and not keep them there for two hours.

 

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Don't think that Orem has a Police Chief, but the "Director of Public Safety" is "Michael J. Larsen" http://www.orem.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=331&Itemid=337

Police Chief for American Fork, UT is "Lance M. Call" http://www.afcity.com/DE_Police.asp

Hope this helps.

gf

I called Orem PD and Michael J. Larsen is both Chief and Director of Public Safety.

 

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I just finished my five page letter for all those I mentioned above. If anyone would like a copy please feel free to private message me or e-mail me ([email protected]) and I'll send a copy to you. Just a disclaimer this letter is my own opinion and my understanding of the law and my feelings about OC without a permit and OC with a permit. I'll expand out later to all other Utah County cities sometime in the near future.

 

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Hey Outside, you've got a great idea there. Could you send one of those letters to Cheif Kip Botkin of the Lone Peak Public Safety District (20 N. Main Apline, Utah 84004)? The district covers two cities in northern Utah County (Apline, Highland).
Thanks for your work to support our 2nd amendment rights.
Scallywag

Yeah, I will, soon as I get some more stamps.

 

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I've almost got all of northen UT on a list, once I get past Utah county it will go faster

You sending letters to Utah County area as well? Good! PM/E-mail those agencies you send to just so I know to double up there as well and make sure my letters are going to the same, give them a combination "punch."

 

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You sending letters to Utah County area as well? Good! PM/E-mail those agencies you send to just so I know to double up there as well and make sure my letters are going to the same, give them a combination "punch."

No no no... sorry for the confusion
I'm making a list of all the addresses to; Chief/Sheriff names, numbers, and links to websites for all LEO offices in all of Utah.
Once I get all the offices in Utah county the rest of the list should go faster.

With the list we can all (who ever wants to help) mail letters to all of them and help them understand the law about OC/CC, and hope they pass down the info to their police force. :wink:

Ah! Okay, my bad.

I just received my first return e-mail from the ten letters I sent out to Law Enforcement Agencies and a private firearms company. This one is from Mike Stilwell, owner of Range Masters of Utah, LC:

Thank you for your letter--I just received it today. As you already
know, you are correct on all counts pertaining to open carry. I am not
sure why the staff at the range told you 21--I hope they mis-understood
the question, but they could have easily just screwed-up. Open carry
laws have also recently been discussed as house bills to give us some
better understanding for open carry, as well as trying to get CCP
holders access to carry in National Parks/Monuments. As far as my
personal feelings of open carry--If I had the choice to be a sheep (no
firearm) and to open carry--I would open carry in every instance.

I appreciate your time and I hope you get your permit soon (I believe in
class you were waiting to turn 21) and if you need anything please let
me know. Take care and stay safe, ms

--
Mike Stilwell
Action Target, Inc.
<Phone Numbers Edited>

"...As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body, and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."

Thomas Jefferson

I hope all the letters that I get back from police chiefs and others are just as positive.