HB 260 Constitutional Carry

[DaKnife]

Rep Oda has introduced HB 260 which removes the permit requirement for carrying Utah unloaded open or concealed.
http://le.utah.gov/~2015/bills/static/HB0260.html

[JulietHotel]

Good news! Let's just hope Herbert gets the picture this time around.

Off topic - Are you the same Daknife on Waze?

[FrankenHollow]

Off topic - Are you the same Daknife on Waze?

This should answer your question:
Anybody using Waze?





Edited to fix a stupendous typo...

[DaKnife]

Yes, one and the same.

[D-FIN]

An interesting article on Waze posted here.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20077

[bagpiper]

Word is that Gov. Herbert is threatening to veto this bill again, as he did last year.

POLITE and BRIEF phone calls or emails to the governor's office encouraging him to support our RKBA by supporting HB 260 would be in order. Ditto for similar POLITE and BRIEF phone calls or emails to your legislators and legislative leadership.

The governor may be contacted at:

The Office of Governor Gary R. Herbert
350 North State Street, Suite 200
PO Box 142220
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-2220
 Phone: 801-538-1000
 Toll Free: 800-705-2464

You can find your State Senator at the Senate Roster page.

Similarly, your State Representative can be found at the [url]=http://le.utah.gov/house2/representatives.jsp]House Roster page[/url]

Charles

[bagpiper]

KSL has a report on this bill today. It is about as fair as one can expect from the media on any pro-gun bill.

Comments are running in favor of the RKBA so far.

Check out the article on KSL.

Charles

[notsosharpshot]

And.... it appears to be dead.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2165849-155/governor-cuts-deal-to-avert-showdown

Herbert, a gun owner and concealed-carry permit holder, vetoed a nearly identical bill in 2013, arguing that the state's current concealed-weapons-permit program prevents people convicted of crimes from carrying concealed firearms and benefits public safety.

Yup, it's a good thing the criminals will respect permit laws. I was also worried that they would start carrying if this went through. I wonder if there's a way we could convince them to follow other laws too? What's the secret with concealed weapons laws that makes them work?

[brainoncapitalist]

And.... it appears to be dead.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2165849-155/governor-cuts-deal-to-avert-showdown

Herbert, a gun owner and concealed-carry permit holder, vetoed a nearly identical bill in 2013, arguing that the state's current concealed-weapons-permit program prevents people convicted of crimes from carrying concealed firearms and benefits public safety.

Yup, it's a good thing the criminals will respect permit laws. I was also worried that they would start carrying if this went through. I wonder if there's a way we could convince them to follow other laws too? What's the secret with concealed weapons laws that makes them work?

Wow, that makes Herbert sound like a complete imbecile.

[ObiRich]

Latest news is Oda pulled the bill to rework it to address the RINO's (Herbert's) concerns. We lose again.

[Uinta Firearms]

Why pull it when you can just amend it?

[UtahJarhead]

I like Oda, so I'm ASSUMING that he's doing it for a good reason.

[manithree]

So, is there anybody else here who will never EVER vote for Herbert for anything?

What he's saying is, even though it's worked fine in other states, he doesn't trust the people of Utah enough to "allow" it here. I find condescending attitudes from my presumed betters in the ruling class completely unacceptable.

I don't blame Oda. If he can water it down a little more and take a step in the right direction, that's better than nothing.

[ObiRich]

I don't blame Oda. If he can water it down a little more and take a step in the right direction, that's better than nothing.

In reality I blame the Legislature. Two years ago it passed both houses with a supposedly veto proof majority, and then when Herbert vetoed it anyway, they didn't convene a special session to override. Either some legislators voted for it, knowing that Herbert would veto and then they "switched sides" so that their official vote showed they voted for it, or the leadership suddenly lost their spine. Either way, it could have and should have been a done deal two years ago.

[DaKnife]

And now Utah will go from leading the nation in respecting our rights to trailing the pack as Constitutional Carry sweeps the nation (And not with the silly Utah unloaded limit this bill included.)