HB206 Domestic violence

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HB206 Domestic violence

Postby DaKnife » Fri 24 Feb 2017 10:14 am

It's late to be discussing this since it just passed the House unanimously without any debate (stripping a right without any debate???) But we should push to block this bill. https://le.utah.gov/~2017/bills/static/HB0206.html With a conviction, okay we can mirror federal law, but the inclusion of restraining/protective orders needs to be blocked. A restraining/protective order does not offer sufficient due process to protect the rights of the accused before stripping them of their right to Keep and Bear Arms.

I've never been subject to such an order but have had a couple colleagues in the Guard who had such orders taken out against them without merit. Their wives took out the order to try and demonize the guys in the divorce process for better results.

Stripping a constitutional right based on an unproven claim is just wrong. In my opinion it should require a felony to strip a right, but Lautenberg saddled us with this law allowing a misdemeanor conviction to strip a right for life, and so we can live with that. But we should not do it, even temporarily on a mere protective order.
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Re: HB206 Domestic violence

Postby Cinhil » Sat 25 Feb 2017 12:24 am

Agreed! Now we have to look at the commonality of issuance of these restraining orders which are too often abused throught the courts (divorce), most of the time with no merit and often unilaterally applied to both parties until such time as a decree has been finally ordered.
What part of "Shall not be infringed" is not being abused today!

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