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Google---sorry divegeek

Postby moparconvert » Thu 28 Jun 2012 5:54 pm

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012 ... s-results/


I have to say with how integrated Google is in our everyday lives it would be hard to do. Then again i guess we can also voice our displeasure with this action in an email on slot.
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Postby quychang » Thu 28 Jun 2012 6:19 pm

http://bing.com
http://ask.com
http://yahoo.com
http://altavista.com

Just to name four of the many alternatives to google, I quit using Google for everything but email over a year ago. Oh, I "do" have chrome installed, but I may fix that.

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Postby moparconvert » Thu 28 Jun 2012 6:34 pm

I use Bing and yahoo the most, but we are also talking mobile phones (Android) as well.
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Postby RoccoRacer » Thu 28 Jun 2012 6:37 pm

Man, I'm so behind. I just started using Chrome last month. I'm still split between that and Firefox on the desktop.
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Postby quychang » Thu 28 Jun 2012 7:21 pm

I use Bing and yahoo the most, but we are also talking mobile phones (Android) as well.


I actually use Firefox with Bing as the default search engine on my Droid Razr...and did on my previous phone, an HTC Incredible...so, even though you can't (easily) remove Google from your phone, you are not locked into using it.

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Postby moparconvert » Thu 28 Jun 2012 7:32 pm

quychang wrote:
I use Bing and yahoo the most, but we are also talking mobile phones (Android) as well.


I actually use Firefox with Bing as the default search engine on my Droid Razr...and did on my previous phone, an HTC Incredible...so, even though you can't (easily) remove Google from your phone, you are not locked into using it.

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Only problem with that is your using a Droid razr. The android operating system is a google product. So the only way to get away from that is go iPhone (apple) or windows phone and im sure in the scheme of things neither are much better.
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Postby quychang » Thu 28 Jun 2012 8:13 pm

Only problem with that is your using a Droid razr. The android operating system is a google product. So the only way to get away from that is go iPhone (apple) or windows phone and im sure in the scheme of things neither are much better.


Dead on. And I have considered a windows phone...as I said, even with my choice to avoid Google, I still use Gmail...and will until I see something out there that's better. At this juncture, for me, Android is superior. So I bite my tongue and use it. Doesn't mean I'll use the offending product (Google Search).

Even a partial boycott is better than none, and I guarantee that if people quit using Google Search, which is their main income generator due to advertising, then they will notice it. Especially if it's accompanied by a deluge of letters, explaining why people aren't using their censored search engine.

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Postby jktseug » Thu 28 Jun 2012 8:14 pm

I like http://www.duckduckgo.com It is a great search engine and they don't do any tracking, or changing links like google does, they give you a direct link.
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Postby gobbly » Thu 28 Jun 2012 8:35 pm

I can't stand bing, the results I get back are pathetic. Google has the best algorithm around unfortunately. I am rather shocked that they pulled firearms from the shopping links though...
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Google---sorry divegeek

Postby Snurd » Thu 28 Jun 2012 9:02 pm

This is totally stupid, and irritates me a lot. Looks like I won't be using that search engine any longer.


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Postby B Cart » Thu 28 Jun 2012 9:14 pm

This is such complete bull crap and really irritates me. It's Unfortunate because I think Google has by far the best search results. At least it sounds like the "general search" results will still include firearm related products, just not the new "google shopping" section? Did I read that right?
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Postby quychang » Thu 28 Jun 2012 9:26 pm

This is such complete bull crap and really irritates me. It's Unfortunate because I think Google has by far the best search results. At least it sounds like the "general search" results will still include firearm related products, just not the new "google shopping" section? Did I read that right?


That appears to be the case, at least so far. But, who knows when they'll censor the rest of their results? And yes, I agree, googles' search engine is superior to the others. And occasionally, when I'm really frustrated with the others, I still fall back on Google. But.... and yes, I pay attention....if a company's advertisements show up on google ads, I do my very best to avoid doing business with them. Not because I have a problem with those companies, but because I want to show them that there are better places to put their advertising dollars. Most companies now days have a survey, asking where you heard about them, if you're willing to take a few minutes to fill them out...including a comments section. Vote with your wallet, and give the worst feedback you can to the company that offends you, or censors your way of life.

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Google---sorry divegeek

Postby Snurd » Thu 28 Jun 2012 9:56 pm

I just tried something. Doing a search under the regular google browser still finds gun related stuff. For now. If you go to the shopper tab, then nothing will come up.

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Re: Google---sorry divegeek

Postby SteelSlapper » Thu 28 Jun 2012 10:13 pm

It's really pretty easy to go about your internet life without Google, I have done it for years. Knowledge is power my friends. Google is easily avoided and your internet experience only depends on Google if you make it that way. There are a hundred alternatives for every service Google offers (yes I know that is exaggerated, but you get what I am saying).

https://duckduckgo.com (note the https version here) is an excellent alternative and there are others that are in the same area of quality. As mentioned they don't bubble, track or censor (aside from porn, but you can turn that off if that's how you like it) results (yet) and they essentially pull all the results from the big search giants and give you what I often find to be the best results without the bull crap tied to them. They also have the very awesome and easy to use bang syntax. 99% of the time that I can't find something with ddg and go to google, I still don't find what I am looking for.

As for email you can roll your own mail server if you want to, there is always hushmail.com and other more secure and privacy oriented services available, for free even.

Chrome is fast, yes, but it's basically an all encompassing data mining utility. If you value privacy and/or anonymity in the slightest, you won't use Chrome. Firefox is definitely the best browser when partnered with the right plugins and it's still pretty fast (unless you have a fail computer). Such plugins are for example: noscript, adblock plus, ghostery, https everywhere, lastpass, etc.

Bottom line is you are a delusional fool if you depend on companies to keep you safe, secure, private, anomymous. Like all things, you must do your research and keep on top of it, which requires time and effort. You are responsible for you and you can't give that responsibility up to a company and expect them to have your best interests at heart. This is the same old principle, old as time.

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Re: Google---sorry divegeek

Postby quychang » Thu 28 Jun 2012 10:23 pm

It's really pretty easy to go about your internet life without Google, I have done it for years. Knowledge is power my friends. Google is easily avoided and your internet experience only depends on Google if you make it that way. There are a hundred alternatives for every service Google offers (yes I know that is exaggerated, but you get what I am saying).



+1 This is pretty much my point from post number 2 in the thread. Yes I still use google rarely. I wasn't aware of duckduckgo, but I will be checking them out. I'm pretty jaded when it comes to believing that there is "no" tracking involved. But almost everyone does a better job of masking it than google. And frankly there has to be a revenue stream generated somewhere for search engines, ect. to maintain operations. Make it transparent to me, and I can live with it. Google doesn't make any attempt. This might be considered as honest, I consider it to be inconvenient as all get out. So I use bing, or one of the other alternatives. Yes, they still track, but they don't rub my nose in in it. And the same goes for their politics. Google has gotten big enough to think they can ignore a large segment of the population. Let's show them that it isn't painless.

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