No more AutoZone for me.

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No more AutoZone for me.

Postby UtahJarhead » Sun 02 Dec 2012 5:31 pm

http://wtkr.com/2012/11/30/autozone-emp ... rd-bandit/
Robbery in progress so an employee gets his gun from his car. Manager believes the employee saved his life. AutoZone corporate fires him for a zero tolerance weapon policy.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby Snurd » Sun 02 Dec 2012 6:05 pm

:disgusted: What a bunch of malarkey.


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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby bltdonahue » Sun 02 Dec 2012 6:20 pm

According to the video, the perp is responsible for over 30 robberies in the area.

30.

OK, there is so much that is screwed up here...but yes, I'll be avoiding AutoZone now.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby SpringfieldGuy » Sun 02 Dec 2012 9:01 pm

I've always hated auto zone for reasons other than firearms, but now it just hated to the hatred. O'reillys is koshure with carrying. At least AF and SF are.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby dewittdj » Sun 02 Dec 2012 10:11 pm

Time to send Auto Zone corporate a letter. Just as they have a choice on how to view the lawful use of guns, I have a choice on where to take my auto related business. Until they change their policy, I won't shop there and I'll let them know via a letter.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby manithree » Sun 02 Dec 2012 10:33 pm

I used to go out of my way to support AutoZone because they got sued by SCO. But the Orem O'Reilly has treated me exceptionally well, and I've OC'ed their numerous times. Times change, I guess.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby MichaelD » Sun 02 Dec 2012 10:55 pm

Unfortunately, AutoZone is the only place I can find locally which sells my preferred oil filter. I'll still go there for the filter, but it looks like they just lost my business otherwise.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby raygun » Sun 02 Dec 2012 11:46 pm

I stopped frequenting Autozone a long time ago but I guess now I have further reason to avoid it.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby quychang » Mon 03 Dec 2012 4:06 am

Unfortunately, AutoZone is the only place I can find locally which sells my preferred oil filter. I'll still go there for the filter, but it looks like they just lost my business otherwise.


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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby UtahJarhead » Mon 03 Dec 2012 6:22 am

quychang wrote:
Unfortunately, AutoZone is the only place I can find locally which sells my preferred oil filter. I'll still go there for the filter, but it looks like they just lost my business otherwise.


Bet you a nickle you can order it on Amazon and probably save money too, even with shipping.

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I'd pay more if it hosed Autozone. The fact that it's (probably) cheaper is just a bonus!
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby bagpiper » Mon 03 Dec 2012 10:42 am

So this is a fine reason to boycott a business.

The question is, to which business do I switch? Is there an auto parts store that is explicitly pro-gun? Or at the very least neutral on guns?

Or have the other stores simply not an incident like this come up to highlight their policy (and the fact that almost every business large enough to have a "professional HR" department these days operates mostly from a position of abject terror relative to the risk of being sued for any kind of "discrimination" and so blindly follows written policy no matter how counterproductive to do so)?

I mean, Amazon doesn't seem to be especially anti-gun in what they sell. I can find ammunition, and gun books, and gun accessories. I don't see actual firearms, but I can't much fault an on-line company for that in this day and age with federal laws and all. But what do you think Amazon's employment policies are relative to firearms?

For that matter, unless you work for yourself, what are the employment policies of the company where you work? Under statute, State and local government employees in Utah are generally protected in their ability to legally carry guns for self defense. If you run your own place you can set what rules you like. I know of one, mid-sized, locally owned/run business that has a pro-gun policy. Every other company whose policy of which I am aware, has explicit anti-RKBA provisions for employees. Most of these extended to the parking lot and the employees' private vehicles until State parking lot preemption was passed a few years ago. I wonder how many employers still need to update.

I'll bet there isn't a national or even regional chain store of any kind without an anti-RKBA employment policy, at least. Maybe you can find a locally owned parts store that is independent and doesn't have such policies.

But I think any boycott in these cases needs to include a letter to corporate HQ explaining exactly why you're moving your business, AND some indication that you've found a business with better policies.

I don't know of any such businesses.

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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby Stang777 » Mon 03 Dec 2012 1:00 pm

I agree Bagpiper, I have worked for many retail companies and I do not know of one single chain that lets any employee carry a gun on their person while working at all. Most do not even let employees carry in their store while not on the clock. That is not to say they won't let customers carry, but they will not let employees carry a gun on their person while on their property at any time.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby UtahJarhead » Mon 03 Dec 2012 1:39 pm

http://www.kval.com/news/local/111396664.html
Boersma said the company gave the staff a week of paid leave and access to grief counseling. The company has formed a committee to review all of its safety procedures, he said.


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Dutch Bros. — a company that Boersma said was “built on love and relations” — prohibits employees from carrying guns while at work. But the policy violation won’t cost the barista his job, Boersma said.

The company has offered the man counseling and placed him on paid leave for one month. Boersma said he has spoken with his employee several times since the shooting.

“He’s been through a lot, and we’re giving him our whole support,” Boersma said. “When he’s ready to come back, we’ll be ready to have him back.”

All employees of the Franklin Boulevard kiosk were given one week of paid leave following the shooting, Boersma said.

Company officials and employees are working with law enforcement and security specialists on a thorough review of Dutch Bros. safety guidelines. The no-firearms policy is one of the rules that is being scrutinized, Boersma said.

“We want to make sure (that policy) is in the best interest of our employees,” he said.


And now you know of one. :)
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby Stang777 » Mon 03 Dec 2012 2:03 pm

Well, not really, in this instance violating the policy won't cost that person their job, which is great, but they still have the policy against employees carrying guns at work. It is also great that they are going to rethink that policy, but so far we don't know if they will change it.

There are many policies in place that violating doesn't lead to dismissal. I know of one major one that usually leads to dismissal but doesn't always. It is against almost all stores policies to sell alcohol to minors, and it is against the law, but violating that policy, and law, even though the written consequence for violating that policy includes possible dismissal, does not always cost the employee their job, but that policy, and law, is still in effect so it could cost someone their job.

I think it is the policy against employees carrying firearms that is the objectionable part, not whether or not someone loses their job for violating said policy.
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Re: No more AutoZone for me.

Postby UtahJarhead » Mon 03 Dec 2012 2:51 pm

It was two years ago when that happened. The employee kept their job, got paid leave, and was offered councelling. That's the point.
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