West Side Pawn

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West Side Pawn

Postby Utah_patriot » Sat 22 Aug 2009 7:55 am

I entered the pawn shop located in West Valley City Utah to look at their inventory.
As I was shopping one of the men behind the counter noticed my firearm.

He told me it was company policy for customers to have a concealed or open carried firearm in their store.
I complied with their store policy and left the store.

I called the Manager/Owner who stated that firearm carried by customers are not allowed in the store.
The manager was very abrupt when talking about firearms.

Seems like they don't trust the customer therfore does not deserve my money.
As it stands I will not be a customer until the policy changes. I will shop at other pawnshops who support the RTKBA.

West Side Pawn Shop Both Locations

West Valley City
1635 West 3500 South
(801) 972-2401

Salt Lake City
2611 South State Street
(801) 484-1331
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby Snurd » Sat 22 Aug 2009 8:58 am

gunsfreak4791 wrote:He told me it was company policy for customers to have a concealed or open carried firearm in their store.
I complied with their store policy and left the store.

I'm guessing you meant to say that it was company policy to not allow firearms, cc'd or oc'd, right? Otherwise this would have been a much better store. :D
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby Jeff Johnson » Sat 22 Aug 2009 10:15 am

That's especially silly for a place that sells guns to have such an anti-gun policy.
What, do they think that you'll suddenly draw and go crazy?

Someone intent on robbing the place isn't going to OC, and isn't going to stand and argue about store policy.
They'll just rob the place. Their policy doesn't make them any safer. It just loses customers.

There are lots of pawn shops around. I'm sure that some of them want your business.
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby RanzITman » Sat 22 Aug 2009 10:36 am

That does kind of cross the line as far as stupid policies go. :raisedbrow: I will also drop a note to them stating they won't receive my business until the policy changes. Maybe they will start to think about it if it's not an isolated case.

APPENDED: 8/22/09 1:15pm

To: [email protected]
Subject: Alienating Your Customers

To West Side Pawn Management;

As a reasonably frequent customer to your West Valley location I was extremely disappointed to learn that your policy is to turn away customers who legally carry firearms onto the premises.

It may interest you to know that every time I have been in your store purchasing items I was legally carrying a concealed firearm. Now that I am aware of your policy I will respect it in the future. I will continue to legally carry my firearm, I regrettably will not however be frequenting your business while your policy is in place.

I am dismayed at taking this action as I have found your establishment to offer many items of interest to me and I have always found your prices to be reasonable. If your policy does change you can be assured that I will return as a customer. Until then, I urge you to reconsider your current policy and keep in mind that any person who would enter your business to threaten you with a firearm is unlikely to consider or respect any policy you may have in place.

Sincerely;

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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby Utah_patriot » Fri 28 Aug 2009 4:31 pm

So just a update to this situation:

The pawn shop felt that by me posting about them and calling to inform them I would not be giving them my business both store's a total of four calls. They notified my employer that I was harassing them they found out were worked based on my email. I was called into my LT's office to explain my side of the story.

They took it a step further and called South Salt Lake City Police department to notify them that I was harassing them. Their were no laws broken and no charges filled. The police were used by the pawn shop to intimidate me into stop telling people of my experience.

The pawn shop is upset that their policy came back to bite them. The tactics used by this pawn shop were just dirty politics. Just think if you were a customer and had a problem.

The police department stated by posting about them I was endangering their business and subject to criminal charges. I felt the officer was trying to use her powers to threaten and co hearse me to stop.

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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby RanzITman » Fri 28 Aug 2009 5:19 pm

I hope there were no ramifications at your work, and I really hope you told that officer what you thought of her advice. Your right to free speech is constitutionally protected and telling everyone a fact about a business that they may not want spread around is completely within your rights.

If what you say is the truth and it damages their business then I’d say if they are worried about it they might rethink their business strategy. Spreading the truth is not harassment in any court in the land.

I don’t know what was said on those calls but maybe they should consider themselves lucky that you are not standing in front of their store with a picket sign (also completely legal)

I have received no response or acknowledgement to my email. I guess they have no interest in me. Maybe if I put an add in the Tribune classifieds explaining their policy and sent it to them it will get their attention. If they chose to travel that road with me it’s going to get bumpy.
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby RustyShackleford » Fri 28 Aug 2009 5:29 pm

gunsfreak4791 wrote:So just a update to this situation:

The police department stated by posting about them I was endangering their business and subject to criminal charges.
Thanks

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That is complete crapola.....If you are stating facts, that is not harrasment...No Way, No How! ...complaining/informing others of truthful (store policy) is not against the law.

ever visit Consumer Reports or...http://www.wehirealiens.com/browse/index.asp
the Police dept.is full of hot air!

If I am correct here...All you did is state a Fact "They don't allow guns" something that by law they are to "post in plain view" at all entrances to their store...If anything they are in violation of the law.

for them to "covertly" obtain your place of employment and complain to your employer...that may be actionable as harassment on their part. It certainally would be if you were fired or demoted.
Thanks for posting this.
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby Car Knocker » Fri 28 Aug 2009 6:20 pm

RustyShackleford wrote:If I am correct here...All you did is state a Fact "They don't allow guns" something that by law they are to "post in plain view" at all entrances to their store...If anything they are in violation of the law.

There is no law in Utah that dictates the manner of "No Firearms" posting at private businesses in Utah nor is it illegal to ignore any such postings at businesses. A business may ask you to leave their premises with your firearm if they so desire but no law has been violated.
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby divegeek » Fri 28 Aug 2009 8:29 pm

gunsfreak4791 wrote:The police department stated by posting about them I was endangering their business and subject to criminal charges. I felt the officer was trying to use her powers to threaten and co hearse me to stop.

I'd consider filing charges against THEM for harassment. They contacted your employer? They called the police when you had done nothing but exercise your freedom of speech? The only law you could have broken is the law against libel, but that's only if you're publishing *false* and defamatory statements.

If anyone might have considered ignoring their policy against firearms, NO ONE should ignore the way they've harassed a former customer.
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby RanzITman » Fri 28 Aug 2009 8:48 pm

divegeek wrote:If anyone might have considered ignoring their policy against firearms, NO ONE should ignore the way they've harassed a former customer.


:agree: Exactly!
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby Cinhil » Fri 28 Aug 2009 9:54 pm

Hmmmm....Perhaps an en masse mobilization of a dozen or more members entering their stores at the same time something might just get done about this, especially if the press are contacted concerning the "event" and why it is newsworthy---it would be about guns, wouldn't it? And isn't that what the press likes to cover? Anyhow, just a thought. :idea:
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby RustyShackleford » Sat 29 Aug 2009 9:56 am

Car Knocker wrote:
RustyShackleford wrote:If I am correct here...All you did is state a Fact "They don't allow guns" something that by law they are to "post in plain view" at all entrances to their store...If anything they are in violation of the law.

There is no law in Utah that dictates the manner of "No Firearms" posting at private businesses in Utah nor is it illegal to ignore any such postings at businesses. A business may ask you to leave their premises with your firearm if they so desire but no law has been violated.

Thanks for correcting me on posting on private property.

Could it be that if they chose to post a sign...it might hurt there business?

On a completly unrelated note.....PETCO and PetSmart incourage their customers to bring in their pets..Good for business!.
this Pawn shop could learn somthing from this.
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby Utah_patriot » Sat 29 Aug 2009 11:03 am

agreed

I guess I will have to wait and see what fall out comes from this.
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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby Utah_patriot » Tue 13 Oct 2009 9:02 am

So just a update for this pawn shop. I still have not received a response back from this pawn shop. So as far as I am concerned the West Side Pawnshop will remain on the boycott list. The owner's of this pawn shop have shown a distrust to gun owners who openly or Conceal their firearms in their stores.

The best thing I can do as a citizen is not shop here and tell others of my decision not to support a anti- 2nd Amendment establishment. Any pawn shop owner who calls the police because I voiced my opinion and contacts my employer to retaliate does not deserve money from the gun community.

Spread the word tell your friends and family. As many of us try to move forward with our rights as citizens to feel safe where we shop. I for one refuse to step into a place that gives criminals more rights then law abiding citizens.

Call or Email this store voice your honest opinion and let them know how you feel. Please be kind and courteousness. The only way we can effect change is through the pocketbook or through the voices of the community. A pawnshop that relies on firearms being pawned should allow them to be carried openly or Concealed.

Thanks again for your support and hope to see change.

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Re: West Side Pawn

Postby abrian8 » Tue 13 Oct 2009 1:26 pm

My email has been sent.
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