More on the merits of Run-Hide-Fight

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More on the merits of Run-Hide-Fight

Postby dewittdj » Mon 18 Jan 2016 7:16 pm

The question recently came up and here is what I found:

Virtually every location that doesn’t have highly trained and skilled armed defenders is a "soft target."

The FBI https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cirg/active-shooter-and-mass-casualty-incidents/run-hide-fight-video, DHS http://www.dhs.gov/cveas-portal, and USAF all have their version of the Run, Hide, Fight training philosophy.

Here’s the FBI's: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cirg/active-shooter-and-mass-casualty-incidents/run-hide-fight-video
It's the best of the ones that I have seen.

DHS pocket card: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/active_shooter_pocket_card_508.pdf .

LA County Sheriff video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFQ-oxhdFjE . This one is GRAPHIC! Most active shooter incidents are over in 10 - 15 minutes. "When seconds count, help is minutes away."
"Get Out"
"Use Cover and Concealment"
"Take action to protect yourself"
"Help others if safe to do so"
"Secure Your Location"
"Get to a room or confined area that you can lockdown"
"Defend yourself"

Additional information from the LA Sheriff's Department: http://activeshooter.lasd.org/

Texas State University: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0It68YxLQQ
Avoid the Attacker!
Deny the Attacker access to your area!
Defend Yourself!

Here's a Psychology Today article https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-act-violence/201408/the-truth-behind-the-run-hide-fight-debate with a Youtube link to the same video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcSwejU2D0

…and the view from School Security experts: http://www.schoolsecurity.org/trends/alice-training/ .

The truth is, the vast majority of people, whether armed or not, are not adequately trained to take on a lone active shooter, let alone a group of armed insurgents bent on death and destruction. Run!, Hide!, and/or Fight! are their best options.

The training needs to be tailored to the specifics of your location, the amount of training the individuals have, and their willingness to take appropriate and necessary action. Just be aware, even the most highly trained individuals can crack under pressure.
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Re: More on the merits of Run-Hide-Fight

Postby bumpylight » Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:50 pm

Those are great links, dewittdj. Thanks for taking the time to collect and post them! Boy, you're right -- that video from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department is remarkably graphic. :shock:

BTW, while it's true that most of America is a soft target, the United States is a huge country with tens of thousands of significant venues. I suspect the individual chances of dying in any particular year from an act of Islamic terrorism remain on a par with being struck by lighting multiple times while a nearby herd of elephants stampedes over the smashed remains of one's pimped-up dune buggy. :nilly:
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Re: More on the merits of Run-Hide-Fight

Postby D-FIN » Tue 19 Jan 2016 2:17 pm

I think we need more to be Graphic in order to wake people up and get the point across to pay attention so you can be a survivor instead of a casualty.

On another note I'm always a SOFT target even when armed. I think I need a t-shirt that says SOFT TARGET on the front.
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