Glock 42

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Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Thu 20 Feb 2014 3:07 pm

First thoughts:

I just picked this up from Doug's Shoot'n Sports. I haven't had a chance to shoot it. I figured my wife would probably kick me in a certain part of the lower region if I shot it without her, plus I want to clean and lube it before we go shoot it.

It's just a little thing. I put it next to the S&W Shield, and it's smaller in pretty much every dimension. The grip is much smaller than any other Glock and also the Shield. It's lighter as well. The Shield is 19 oz according to their site, and the 42 is 13.76 oz. I felt the weight difference right away. After I hefted them I checked to see exactly what the two weighed. So there you go.

It comes with two 6 round mags and all the other stuff that comes with a Glock, well except for the speed loader. I don't use theirs anyway. I like the Uplula mag loader much better.

It is a Gen 4, so it has the little bitty square bumps all over it. It's not nearly as aggressive as other gen 4 models I have felt though. The texture is not as deep or sharp.

The trigger is definitely harder to pull on the 42 than on the Shield. That may be the fact that it's brand new, and hasn't had any rounds through it. The Shield has been fired a fair amount. We may get a different trigger connector for it, but we will see. Unfortunately it's a smaller connector so we can't just snag one We will have to beak around to see if there is one made yet. It may not be that big of a deal once we get some ammo through it. If the tougher trigger hurts accuracy, we will change it, but since we haven't shot it we will wait.

I'll post some more when we get to shoot it, but so far it's a pretty cool little gadget. I've heard it doesn't have much recoil, so that should be good for people who are recoil sensitive.

Here are a couple pics of it next to other guns.


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Re: Glock 42

Postby Zacharia » Fri 21 Feb 2014 7:23 am

I wasn't sold on.the idea of a .380 glock..380 is a pocket pistol caliber to me, not for plastic bricks that function as.guns.
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But I think I want one after seeing your picture.That is one.cute little pistola!
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Re: Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Fri 21 Feb 2014 7:44 am

Zacharia wrote:I wasn't sold on.the idea of a .380 glock..380 is a pocket pistol caliber to me, not for plastic bricks that function as.guns.
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But I think I want one after seeing your picture.That is one.cute little pistola!

Indeed it is. :D

I forgot to mention that I did try it in my pocket. I have a few different styles of pants, and the pair I was wearing yesterday probably has the smallest pockets of the bunch. I can still fit a pretty good amount of stuff in there though. Since I dot have a purse, I gotta put stuff somewhere. Anyway, the gun fit in there pretty well. It was a little tight near the slide area and took a tiny bit of weaseling to get it out. But after a little practice it wasn't bad at all. With any of my other pants I bet it would be really easy. I think I'll get a pocket holster one of these days and see how it goes.

The only problem with that is I will have to find another spot for the items that used to go in that pocket. :(

It really is a cool little gun. Hopefully the other one will show up soon.


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Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Sat 22 Feb 2014 9:48 am

Well hello again. My wife and I meandered down to Doug's to test out the 42 not too long before we cruised down to the UCC dinner at Rib City.

So how did it do? It seems that with any new gun, or a gun that one is unfamiliar with, it takes a little getting used to. With this little fella, shooting quickly would bring the shots out quite a bit from center. When shot slowly, we could get nice accurate shots. I think that the quick firing will improve once we get used to the small size and it has some more ammo through it to help the trigger a bit.

It is an accurate pistol.We were using Walmart Winchester ammo and were able to get some good groups. For me it did shoot just a tad high at the range we were shooting. We didn't try any long distance shooting, and kept it to about 18 feet. The pictures below are 12 shot groups at that range. I didn't do any bench rest shots, so these are just run of the mill isosceles stance shots.

It did have pretty low recoil. Being a small gun and very light, it was nice not to have the thing buck too much. We didn't shoot it side by side with the Shield, so I can't give a review of the differences in recoil between the little 9mm and the mini .380. We will have to do that next time we head to the range.

Something of note, the trigger was an interesting beast. We tried two different finger placements on the trigger to see which was best. This was more of a test to see if it affected shot placement for my wife, but more of a necessity for me. Why? For me, while shooting with the regular finger placemtent (middle of the pad) was very painful. The trigger safety dig into my finger and shooting a couple mags that way made me want to poop my britches.

Has anyone ever shot a Kel-tec PF9? My friend had one and didn't have the same issue I did. But every time I shot it, the trigger felt like it wanted to take my finger off. It was one of the nastiest triggers I have ever shot. I tried different placements with the PF9, but it didn't matter. I had to stop shooting it.

Slightly different with the G42. While the first placement of my finger was painful, I tried a second. I moved the trigger to the joint closest to the tip of my finger. I usually shoot DA revolvers that way, and it works excellent. After the switch, there was no pain at all. I could have shot that baby all day without a problem. Changing to the other placement didn't change the point of impact for me either. Both shot in the same place. I'm not sure exactly what the difference was for my wife, but she shot it both ways and didn't have any issues with pain.

We shot 100 rounds of the Winchester, and also some Gold Dots to see how they would feed. Everything worked out except for one hiccup. I think it may have been due to a thumb placement because the slide locked back while there was still ammo in the mag. We didn't have any problems except for that one, and I'm pretty sure it was human error and not the gun itself.

My wife claimed this gun within seconds of me telling her it was available for us to go get. I'll just have to wait for the next one. So the gun was immediately Mickified. If you are not familiar with the term, it is the application of something that resembles Micky Mouse. You will see the Mickification in the photos below.

So, even though I had an initial issue with the trigger, I think this is a great gun. The trigger issue was easily worked out by switching my finger placement. My wife loves it. It's nice and small, has low recoil, and is easy to conceal. She wore it last night to the dinner, and said that she could barely even feel that it was there. :D

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Re: Glock 42

Postby J_dazzle23 » Sat 22 Feb 2014 1:07 pm

Awesome. I have shot this one too, and the trigger felt like about 7.5 lbs. It honestly did hurt my trigger finger shooting on the pad, but I was fairly accurate with it. Tons better than a ruger lcp or something of the sort. And it felt like a 22 since I usually shoot my 1911. Good review!

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Re: Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Sat 22 Feb 2014 1:11 pm

J_dazzle23 wrote:Awesome. I have shot this one too, and the trigger felt like about 7.5 lbs. It honestly did hurt my trigger finger shooting on the pad, but I was fairly accurate with it. Tons better than a ruger lcp or something of the sort. And it felt like a 22 since I usually shoot my 1911. Good review!

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If you get a chance to shoot it again, try shifting your finger as I did. It made a world of difference, for me at least.


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Re: Glock 42

Postby J_dazzle23 » Sat 22 Feb 2014 1:13 pm

I definitely will. The 'ol ball and chain has been looking at one, as well as a 9mm xdm and a sig p93....8? I think. Will probably go shoot one next week. Ill post how it goes here.

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Re: Glock 42

Postby MichaelD » Sat 22 Feb 2014 3:02 pm

Snurd wrote:Something of note, the trigger was an interesting beast. We tried two different finger placements on the trigger to see which was best. This was more of a test to see if it affected shot placement for my wife, but more of a necessity for me. Why? For me, while shooting with the regular finger placemtent (middle of the pad) was very painful. The trigger safety dig into my finger and shooting a couple mags that way made me want to poop my britches.


Funny enough, I had the exact same issue when I shot dy04's Gen4 G19 a few weeks ago; my poor trigger finger was seriously sore after 150 rounds. I've never had that experience with my M&P's, and I suspect I'd have to do a lot of experimenting to come up with a solution.
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Re: Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Sat 22 Feb 2014 3:22 pm

MichaelD wrote:
Snurd wrote:Something of note, the trigger was an interesting beast. We tried two different finger placements on the trigger to see which was best. This was more of a test to see if it affected shot placement for my wife, but more of a necessity for me. Why? For me, while shooting with the regular finger placemtent (middle of the pad) was very painful. The trigger safety dig into my finger and shooting a couple mags that way made me want to poop my britches.


Funny enough, I had the exact same issue when I shot dy04's Gen4 G19 a few weeks ago; my poor trigger finger was seriously sore after 150 rounds. I've never had that experience with my M&P's, and I suspect I'd have to do a lot of experimenting to come up with a solution.

I haven't had that issue with the bigger gen 4's. I'm curious if there is possibly a different trigger or trigger safety that would allow the safety to go into the trigger more than this one does. I will have to do some searching.
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Re: Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Sat 22 Feb 2014 4:07 pm

I just did a quick test, dry firing the G42 and G19 side by side. The closer the trigger sits to the end of my finger, the more it hurts. But moving my finger more into the trigger guard and using more of the back of the pad, it doesn't bother me. I did notice that it is more pronounced with the heavier trigger. The G42 has a 5.5lb trigger connector, while the G19 has a 3.5lb connector. So using the extra force to pull the trigger allows for greater owie factor if I use more of the end of my finger.

I will try this new discovery the next time we take it out shooting and see if it helps.
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Re: Glock 42

Postby Photocell » Sat 22 Feb 2014 7:38 pm

It's a sweet little gun! Thanks for letting me fondle it up, it was actually really surprising. I am definitely going to have to shoot one now. That's interesting on the trigger that it didn't bother your wife "maybe she's just tougher" I think I only dry fired it twice, it had a firm pull but crisp break. But compared to an LCP or other super sub compact type handguns, that one definitely felt better and like a real gun if that makes sense.
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Re: Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Sun 23 Feb 2014 1:38 pm

Photocell wrote:It's a sweet little gun! Thanks for letting me fondle it up, it was actually really surprising. I am definitely going to have to shoot one now. That's interesting on the trigger that it didn't bother your wife "maybe she's just tougher" I think I only dry fired it twice, it had a firm pull but crisp break. But compared to an LCP or other super sub compact type handguns, that one definitely felt better and like a real gun if that makes sense.

No problem. My wife is definitely tougher. :lol2: :crying:


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Re: Glock 42

Postby faydee » Sat 01 Mar 2014 12:35 pm

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Is that a Star Wars Rebel insignia crossed with Mickey Mouse ears? if so cool!!! (that's what i see anyways lol)
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Re: Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Sat 01 Mar 2014 12:36 pm

faydee wrote:Image

Is that a Star Wars Rebel insignia crossed with Mickey Mouse ears? if so cool!!! (that's what i see anyways lol)

That's exactly what it is. :D


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Re: Glock 42

Postby Snurd » Thu 06 Mar 2014 7:44 am

The other 42 came in. :dancing:

We went down to Doug's to shoot both of them. Wednesday was a bad night to do so. They were having the pin shoot, so half the lanes were being used for that. Then there was a couple guys right next to us that were shooting a .45 as fast as they could the entire time we were there. That was pretty irritating. Have you ever tried talking to someone at the range when there is almost no lull in the noise?

I did try a different position with my finger on the trigger. There was still an issue. I'm not sure if it's because the trigger is totally smooth, or maybe the way the gun recoils, or it may be something else. Other Glocks have little grooves in the trigger, the 42 doesn't.

Instead of having the trigger safety dig in to my finger, when I used a little bit more of my pad, my finger would slip down the trigger when firing and drag along the trigger guard. After a mag or so, that was painful. I tried moving my finger up a little to see if that would help, but it didn't. I guess it could also be the stiff trigger that is helping with the issue. I'm still curious if a lighter trigger connector would reduce the issue. As soon as I find one I will try it out.

It wasn't a really big issue. Using the first joint of my finger works great and I didn't get any pain from it.

It shoots great. We had the targets at maybe 6-7 yards. I forgot to check so that's a guess. Here are the resulting targets.

First target is 38 hats of Winchester fmj. Second target is 14 Gold Dots and 2 fmj.

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