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Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby bumpylight » Sat 13 Feb 2016 3:45 pm

With the reported death today of conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, whither the Constitution? Want to bet the gun grabbers will now rush to get a new anti-gun-rights majority to rule on recent gun cases that had been winding their way through the lower courts to Supreme Court review? This event would seem to make it wise for pro-liberty activists to avoid appeals that might end up before a slim, pro-tyranny majority of gun banners.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby dewittdj » Sat 13 Feb 2016 11:14 pm

Worst case scenario, Republicans delay the appointment by not confirming Obama's choice, Clinton gets elected and appoints Obama as the replacement with Congress and the House Republicans reduced to a minority as the result of their delaying actions on the Obama nominee confirmation. Almost makes me consider packing up and moving to New Zealand.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby Doctor Jenks » Sun 14 Feb 2016 3:48 pm

Or, the Trump gets elected and nominates his liberal sister.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby JoeSparky » Sun 14 Feb 2016 5:06 pm

Doctor Jenks wrote:Or, the Trump gets elected and nominates his liberal sister.

Or Trump gets elected and still appoints Obama
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby AlanM » Mon 15 Feb 2016 12:00 am

Obama has been quoted as saying he's not interested in being an SC justice.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby bumpylight » Mon 15 Feb 2016 7:15 am

After more than thirty years of thought upon the latter days of a vicious, centuries-long culture war between decent people and the far left, which now seems to have succeeded in hijacking the great bulk of the Democratic Party's political machinery, it's beginning to look as if either violent revolution or an Article V convention of the states is inevitable.

Needless to say, anyone with an ounce of sense greatly prefers a relatively peaceful resolution to the raw ugliness of this culture war. I hope to be later making a sustained public effort on behalf of Ted Cruz, the only real candidate for holding back the leftist tide, and on behalf of those who think it might be possible to prop up the spineless Republicans in the Senate against the howling of the leftist mobs for an immediate, ultra-leftist replacement for the brilliant Antonin Scalia. If the miracle of preventing a new Supreme Court appointment until after the election of a Republican presidential candidate can be accomplished, then the day of reckoning can be pushed off just that much longer.

In the muck of despair by some, let us not forget a central fact: The percentage of the entire country that can be accurately identified as falling into the camp of the extreme left is almost certainly quite small. I gravely doubt that the core representation of the Left constitutes more than ten percent of the populace, and the really noisy, dangerous ones on the extreme end of that spectrum likely make up less than a single percentage point.

I strongly believe much of the structural problem of the Republican Party in the Electoral College derives from opposition to softening the so-called Drug War, which is directly responsible for mass slaughters of innocents in Mexico and elsewhere and for an appalling erosion of civil liberties in the United States, and to gay marriage, the latter concept of which has caught the attention of vast swathes of independent voters. Continuing to oppose gay marriage just makes many otherwise undecided voters think Republicans are mean-spirited and stuck in the past. Yes, outright homosexuals and sexually confused people make up perhaps four percent at most of the general populace, but they've essentially won that particular opinion war, and there's no going back.

Shift the Republican Party to a more libertarian, populist stance that focuses on personal ownership of the fruits of one's own labor, general economic opportunities and civil rights, and the electoral maps change markedly at the national level. Admittedly, forcing such a shift promises to be itself a huge battle, but there is hope. As seen with the tumultuous struggle between the Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton camps and as seen with the startling, populist rise of Donald Trump, both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party appear at present to be convulsing in virtual civil war between deeply divided camps. When all is said and done, the ideas of economic liberty and the right to defend yourself and your beloved against violent crime and terrorism are inherently stronger than the ideas of crushing taxes, deepening economic stagnation and shrieking oppression of religious groups.

The rabid extremism of the enemy, for they can only be called the enemy, offers great scope for an effective mind war against their ideas. Yes, the latter-day Democratic Party can indeed be called the Evil Party, but the Republican Party holds the very real potential to rise past its longstanding reputation as the Stupid Party.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby dewittdj » Mon 15 Feb 2016 8:56 pm

AlanM wrote:Obama has been quoted as saying he's not interested in being an SC justice.

He was also quoted as saying "If you like your plan, then you can keep your plan.", "...doctor..." , "...it will cost less...", and a significant number of other outright lies.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby dewittdj » Mon 15 Feb 2016 8:59 pm

I don't know if I would be espousing violent revolution as a means to solve the culture war as a number of our enemies would welcome the opportunity to destroy us if it came to that.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby AlanM » Tue 16 Feb 2016 5:10 am

Also Zero doesn't have a leg to stand on if he whines that the Senate won't go along with his nomination(s).

Flashback: Obama Tried to Filibuster Bush’s Supreme Court Pick

In a 2006 appearance on ABC's This Week, then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) criticized Democrats for being unable to effectively articulate the case against then-Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito. Obama then expressed support for then-Sen. John Kerry's (D-MA) efforts to filibuster Alito.

"I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values," Obama said. "When you look at his decisions--in particular, during times of war--we need a court that is independent and is going to provide some check on the executive branch."
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby bumpylight » Tue 16 Feb 2016 10:57 am

Quite right -- revolutions are messy and ugly. Good people die in them. It behooves all right-thinking people to go to great lengths to avoid the need for revolution. I'm personally quite optimistic that the country can be turned around peacefully with a mind war rather than a shooting war. As I said, the hard leftists actually are a small minority, and they can be decisively defeated in the arena of public opinion. An Article V convention of the states can then solidify the victory by writing into Constitutional law much clearer guarantees of civil liberties such as inalienable private ownership of property and the absolute right to the tools of personal self-defense.

dewittdj wrote:I don't know if I would be espousing violent revolution as a means to solve the culture war as a number of our enemies would welcome the opportunity to destroy us if it came to that.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby ObiRich » Wed 17 Feb 2016 8:12 pm

AlanM wrote:Obama has been quoted as saying he's not interested in being an SC justice.


And with his track record you believe him...haha!
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby JoeSparky » Thu 18 Feb 2016 12:25 am

ObiRich wrote:
AlanM wrote:Obama has been quoted as saying he's not interested in being an SC justice.


And with his track record you believe him...haha!

'Twould certainly cut into his golf time!
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby Uinta Firearms » Thu 25 Feb 2016 10:46 pm

This is much simpler than you guys realize. As it stands, 0 can't be a SCOTUS justice. Both he and his wife surrendered their law licenses to the State of Illinois many years ago. You can look it up on the Illinois state website. 0 would first have to obtain a law license in order to be a SCOTUS Justice.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby AlanM » Thu 25 Feb 2016 11:32 pm

Uinta Firearms wrote:This is much simpler than you guys realize. As it stands, 0 can't be a SCOTUS justice. Both he and his wife surrendered their law licenses to the State of Illinois many years ago. You can look it up on the Illinois state website. 0 would first have to obtain a law license in order to be a SCOTUS Justice.


Umm, just a question. I've read the US Constitution but my memory isn't too good and a quick Google didn't turn up anything but where in the Constitution does it say that a SCOTUS justice has to be a member of the bar?
As a matter of fact, where does it say that ANY judge has to be a member of the bar?
Did bar associations even exist in the late 18th century?
OH, I'm sure that there may be state laws to that effect. Bar associations wouldn't let that slip through the cracks I would think.

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From: http://www.learninglaw.com/careers/how-to-become-a-judge
Q:Can you be a judge without being a lawyer?
A:In most states, you must pass the bar examination and become a lawyer first if you plan on becoming a judge. A few years of experience in the legal field is required for the career of a judge. However, this may not be mandatory. You can check with your state to find out what the requirements of being a judge are.
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Re: Gun Rights With Obama Supreme Court Appointee

Postby DaKnife » Sat 27 Feb 2016 7:16 pm

Uinta Firearms wrote:This is much simpler than you guys realize. As it stands, 0 can't be a SCOTUS justice. Both he and his wife surrendered their law licenses to the State of Illinois many years ago. You can look it up on the Illinois state website. 0 would first have to obtain a law license in order to be a SCOTUS Justice.

There is no requirement to have a law degree or license to be appointed a justice, it's a political appointment. Experience in the field is not required by the constitution. Yes lack of such would make approval by the Senate very difficult, but there are no actual Job requirements along that line. And Trump would not only have to win the Oval Office but the Dems would have to take control of the Senate (not impossible but unlikely) for Obama to have a chance at getting approved.
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