Scott Adams on gun control

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Scott Adams on gun control

Postby manithree » Thu 23 Jun 2016 7:14 am

He (intentionally, I think) misses what most of us would consider the main point of gun control. Still, a humorous and not entirely untrue look at the issue:

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146307088451/why-gun-control-cant-be-solved-in-the-usa

On average, Democrats (that’s my team*) use guns for shooting the innocent. We call that crime.
On average, Republicans use guns for sporting purposes and self-defense.
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If Republicans think they need guns to protect against Democrats, that’s their reality. And if Democrats believe guns make the world more dangerous for themselves, that is their reality. And they can both be right. Your risk profile is different from mine.
It's not about the odds, it's about the stakes.
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Re: Scott Adams on gun control

Postby D-FIN » Fri 24 Jun 2016 2:24 pm

This is not altogether untrue it is truly an complete difference in thinking. To us we all see everything as clear as day and we know that removing guns will not help and will hurt the situation. But the left feel the same way about there views and thinks we are all raving savages because we can't see it the way they do. This is why there is no middle ground here because anything we give up is lost forever even if seems a small thing in the big picture. If we give it up it is downward only spiral to confiscation. The opposition believes we are all evil terrorists waiting to kill everyone so they must fight to take aways out tools of destruction so we don't kill everyone. But the reality is the way they think makes them afraid that they would not have the control to have a gun and NOT use it in anger. So by their views that cannot see that we can have guns and NOT feel the need to use them anger. I have plenty of disagreements and never once considered settling them with my gun that I had in my possession at the time of disagreement.
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Re: Scott Adams on gun control

Postby bumpylight » Fri 24 Jun 2016 7:35 pm

That's the major difference between hate-filled leftists and peaceful non-leftists on the issue of gun rights. Leftists seem physically unable to separate their anger from the urge to sudden violence. I've had a CCW in gun-unfriendly New York State for 28 years, and I've only had occasion *once* in all those years to actually draw my weapon in a harrowing but brief incident that happily ended with retreating thugs and no shots fired. Needless to say, that incident, which occurred more than two decades ago, made me almost paranoid thereafter about avoiding the known bad parts of town and other iffy situations, especially at night. Strenuously avoiding the potential for unwanted trouble is by far the easiest path to some measure of peace of mind. -_-

As I don't doubt everyone here already knows, actually firing a gun in self defense is justified only in the gravest extreme. There are plenty of great books on the topic, but the one that sticks in my mind to this day is "In the Gravest Extreme" by Massad Ayoob.

https://amazon.com/Gravest-Extreme-Fire ... 0936279001

Interestingly, the man seems to have since written another, newer book on the topic. The comments on the first book at Amazon seem to point out valid concerns about the age of the treatment contained within -- and did he really say then that a .22 LR pistol would make a good defensive firearm for women? Perhaps the newer book has better advice for an age of greatly improved CCW weapons and licensing regimes for private citizens.

https://amazon.com/Deadly-Force-Underst ... 440240612/

For that matter, Amazon's recommendation system points out yet another book, written by a different author, that might be useful.

https://amazon.com/Law-Self-Defense-Ind ... 988867702/

D-FIN wrote:[....] So by their views that cannot see that we can have guns and NOT feel the need to use them anger. I have plenty of disagreements and never once considered settling them with my gun that I had in my possession at the time of disagreement.
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