3 Different guns, or are they?

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3 Different guns, or are they?

Postby AlanM » Mon 20 Feb 2017 6:15 am

Nice example with visuals of some similar shotguns.


the three guns are, from top to bottom:

1. A gun that was once made with a shoulder stock and longer barrels. It is a “Short Barreled Shotgun” that has a $200 transfer tax, and takes most of a year (at the speed of bureaucracy) for the transfer paperwork.
2. A gun that was made from the beginning in the pistol form factor. It is “Any Other Weapon” under the NFA. It has a $5 transfer tax, and takes most of a year (at the speed of bureaucracy) for the transfer paperwork.
3. A gun that has some vestige or simulacrum of rifling in the barrel… this is a pistol under the law, and a Title 1 firearm that does not fall under the NFA at all. It can be sold over counter at any FFL, and the buyer can walk out with it, except in states like California where one of the “sickeners” that politicians and criminals impose on lawful owners is a waiting period.

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Re: 3 Different guns, or are they?

Postby DaKnife » Tue 21 Feb 2017 3:40 am

1: Modified and cut down.
2: As manufactured
3: has rifling

This is no different than a Pistol AR and a sbr ar. If you have lines of definition you are going to have borderline disputes. These just fall along the borderline. They are similar but not the same. The differences may seem small but they were established for a reason, they just happen to straddle the border.

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Re: 3 Different guns, or are they?

Postby morcey2 » Tue 21 Feb 2017 9:28 am

I believe that the reason that SBRs and SBSs were included in the NFA was because all handguns were originally also going to be NFA items but were removed late in the process. Short-Barreled-whatevers were viewed as a loophole to be closed when handguns became verboten. Now we need to undo the whole NFA other than maybe for destructive devices.

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